Citizen Request for Assistance to Stop Psychotherapy Takeover of Treatments in Ontario
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I filled out the letter to the MPP as Todd Smith and received a response from Randy Hillier. Is there a glitch in the program? I want to make sure my concerns are going to the right place.
Hi Monica, just to clarify that when we send an email to our MPPs, all MPPs, including opposition members, get a copy. So we are covering all bases. If responses are received from an MPP, other than the auto response, please do forward to admin@stoppsychotherapytakeover.ca asap. We are tracking the responses for later reference.
I agree, for the sake of people’s right and freedom. Thank you for your hard work.
Well said, I strongly support your cause. The destructive legislation and regulations by our un-informed MPPs must be stopped for the sake of people’ right and freedom. Thank you for your efforts.
John
Thank you for the encouragement…we are working for every Canadian’s benefit. This started in the USA and is sure to move right across Canada if it takes hold in Ontario. Please encourage contributions to the legal effort…we badly need contributions so that our actions don’t stall unnecessarily.
I appreciate the effort and would like to support it, but I don’t necessarily agree with everything written in this letter, and therefore don’t feel comfortable sending it to a government representative. If I had the opportunity to edit it a little, I’d be far more likely to sign it and send it to my MPP.
Specifically, I agree that alternative healthcare models are useful, but I’m not convinced that they’re necessarily superior to allopathic medicine. They’re different approaches, and I believe they both have merits, strengths and weaknesses that need to be further explored.
My reason for supporting this petition is to ensure that such research can actually happen, and to avoid legislation which may rob people of access to alternative healthcare in areas where conventional psychotherapy is prohibitively expensive or unavailable, or is not compatible with the patient’s needs and desires for treatment.
However, I can’t endorse a letter as ideologically charged as the one above. Sorry; I agree with the cause, but not with the tone. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment Andre. We thought that the letters allowed edits, but see that they don’t so we are having the designer fix this. It is important that everyone have their say for sure. We appreciate your viewpoint.
Our letter is not about all alternative health care models, only about treatments for emotional, mental, cognitive, thinking, reasoning and social functioning because that is what psychotherapists wish to prevent all others from engaging in, including pet therapy, dietary supplementations, vitamin therapy, coping skills training, hypnosis, holistic education, Zen Buddhism, Transcendental Meditation, exercise therapies such as Yoga and so on. As far as research, there has been a great deal to show (a) superior effectiveness of hypnosis and hypnotherapy over psychoanalysis and psychotherapy (b) of the safety of traditional, holistic, energy and spiritual care treatments over conventional approaches. There are many statistics showing that psychotherapy, which is not actually a profession, has only a 6% success rate and that 42% of the health care practitioners who have been in treatment with the conventional approaches have committed suicide while in treatment with conventional therapists. Health care practitioners have the highest rate of mental illness (twice that of the general population). For sure these are sobering statistics, which are offered in a downloadable PDF at our website here under IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS/Statistics. They are hard to digest given the extraordinary marketing effort that has been laid before us on TV and so on. The last time that research showed that traditional, energy and holistic treatments showed superior results without negative side-effects was in 1970 and after that conventional medical groups refused to support funding for further studies. Despite this, many studies by independent institutes such as the Fraser Institute have spoken loudly. Presently, the law is in place and awaiting the final formality…the L-G of Ontario’s signature. It is then enforceable.
The legislation was installed on the pretext that holistic, traditional, energy and spiritual treatments are ‘risky’ to the public, without any evidence provided to support that claim. And, I might add, much evidence to show the exact opposite. There is a clash of ideology now because this legislation is putting innocent, effective, safe practitioners out of work at a time when the public is speaking loudly at the rate of over $14 Billion/annually out-of-pocket. Never have we attacked conventional therapists, tried to take them over, or suggested they should be regulated and so on, but this is what is being done to us. It is not so much an ideology as a complete monopolization of the entire field of treatment and counseling by drug-influenced conventional groups.
Few people are aware that family therapists will now have to practice as per psychotherapy regulations! This means that if you innocently see a family therapist or marriage counselor, you are likely to be either (a) diagnosed with some mental illness or (b) referred to a colleague who will diagnose. This is the regulation in place presently. Similarly with spiritual practitioners who are being dragged into joining the college to have the right to minister to others who seek their services. Because there is no room for individuality, subcategories, etc, spiritual care practitioners will be required to use the title Registered Psychotherapist and to treat in accordance with the dictates of the medical model. People are aware psychotherapists exist…they choose others for assistance with their problems. Things will certainly become emotionally charged when people start to realize they are being diagnosed with a mental illness when what they were looking for was a spiritual hand up.
We have received many very distressed comments from people who were returned to health after using traditional, holistic, energy treatments and who are terrified they will now, yet again, be forced into treatments that did not work. They will have to go out of the province. We fear for those who were so damaged that psychiatric survivor groups are popping up all over.
We will revisit how to allow people to edit the letter…as choice is important. In the meantime, know that we did not charge the situation, it was we who were attacked. People do get very emotional when their rights, freedoms and health are threatened.
I filled out the letter to the MPP as Todd Smith and received a response from Randy Hillier. Is there a glitch in the program? I want to make sure my concerns are going to the right place.
Hi Monica, just to clarify that when we send an email to our MPPs, all MPPs, including opposition members, get a copy. So we are covering all bases. If responses are received from an MPP, other than the auto response, please do forward to admin@stoppsychotherapytakeover.ca asap. We are tracking the responses for later reference.
I agree, for the sake of people’s right and freedom. Thank you for your hard work.
Well said, I strongly support your cause. The destructive legislation and regulations by our un-informed MPPs must be stopped for the sake of people’ right and freedom. Thank you for your efforts.
John
Thank you for the encouragement…we are working for every Canadian’s benefit. This started in the USA and is sure to move right across Canada if it takes hold in Ontario. Please encourage contributions to the legal effort…we badly need contributions so that our actions don’t stall unnecessarily.
I appreciate the effort and would like to support it, but I don’t necessarily agree with everything written in this letter, and therefore don’t feel comfortable sending it to a government representative. If I had the opportunity to edit it a little, I’d be far more likely to sign it and send it to my MPP.
Specifically, I agree that alternative healthcare models are useful, but I’m not convinced that they’re necessarily superior to allopathic medicine. They’re different approaches, and I believe they both have merits, strengths and weaknesses that need to be further explored.
My reason for supporting this petition is to ensure that such research can actually happen, and to avoid legislation which may rob people of access to alternative healthcare in areas where conventional psychotherapy is prohibitively expensive or unavailable, or is not compatible with the patient’s needs and desires for treatment.
However, I can’t endorse a letter as ideologically charged as the one above. Sorry; I agree with the cause, but not with the tone. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment Andre. We thought that the letters allowed edits, but see that they don’t so we are having the designer fix this. It is important that everyone have their say for sure. We appreciate your viewpoint.
Our letter is not about all alternative health care models, only about treatments for emotional, mental, cognitive, thinking, reasoning and social functioning because that is what psychotherapists wish to prevent all others from engaging in, including pet therapy, dietary supplementations, vitamin therapy, coping skills training, hypnosis, holistic education, Zen Buddhism, Transcendental Meditation, exercise therapies such as Yoga and so on. As far as research, there has been a great deal to show (a) superior effectiveness of hypnosis and hypnotherapy over psychoanalysis and psychotherapy (b) of the safety of traditional, holistic, energy and spiritual care treatments over conventional approaches. There are many statistics showing that psychotherapy, which is not actually a profession, has only a 6% success rate and that 42% of the health care practitioners who have been in treatment with the conventional approaches have committed suicide while in treatment with conventional therapists. Health care practitioners have the highest rate of mental illness (twice that of the general population). For sure these are sobering statistics, which are offered in a downloadable PDF at our website here under IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS/Statistics. They are hard to digest given the extraordinary marketing effort that has been laid before us on TV and so on. The last time that research showed that traditional, energy and holistic treatments showed superior results without negative side-effects was in 1970 and after that conventional medical groups refused to support funding for further studies. Despite this, many studies by independent institutes such as the Fraser Institute have spoken loudly. Presently, the law is in place and awaiting the final formality…the L-G of Ontario’s signature. It is then enforceable.
The legislation was installed on the pretext that holistic, traditional, energy and spiritual treatments are ‘risky’ to the public, without any evidence provided to support that claim. And, I might add, much evidence to show the exact opposite. There is a clash of ideology now because this legislation is putting innocent, effective, safe practitioners out of work at a time when the public is speaking loudly at the rate of over $14 Billion/annually out-of-pocket. Never have we attacked conventional therapists, tried to take them over, or suggested they should be regulated and so on, but this is what is being done to us. It is not so much an ideology as a complete monopolization of the entire field of treatment and counseling by drug-influenced conventional groups.
Few people are aware that family therapists will now have to practice as per psychotherapy regulations! This means that if you innocently see a family therapist or marriage counselor, you are likely to be either (a) diagnosed with some mental illness or (b) referred to a colleague who will diagnose. This is the regulation in place presently. Similarly with spiritual practitioners who are being dragged into joining the college to have the right to minister to others who seek their services. Because there is no room for individuality, subcategories, etc, spiritual care practitioners will be required to use the title Registered Psychotherapist and to treat in accordance with the dictates of the medical model. People are aware psychotherapists exist…they choose others for assistance with their problems. Things will certainly become emotionally charged when people start to realize they are being diagnosed with a mental illness when what they were looking for was a spiritual hand up.
We have received many very distressed comments from people who were returned to health after using traditional, holistic, energy treatments and who are terrified they will now, yet again, be forced into treatments that did not work. They will have to go out of the province. We fear for those who were so damaged that psychiatric survivor groups are popping up all over.
We will revisit how to allow people to edit the letter…as choice is important. In the meantime, know that we did not charge the situation, it was we who were attacked. People do get very emotional when their rights, freedoms and health are threatened.