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1. PS. I meant to call them pseudo-skeptics because they are not a true representation of skepticism Their method is to appear to be sound and reasonable, back it up with good writing and spin, fill it up with quotations and sources that only support your argument, be polemic in their delivery and defense and ignore your criticisms because they are right, you could not possibly know what they know.

   I encountered these guys at this website:

   http://www.badsciencewatch.ca/

   Plus the quackbusters.

   1. I am personally very angry at our MPPs and even MPs…what in heaven’s name do we pay them for? They are not ensuring that what they vote on is actually democratic and protects all citizens. With their votes, they cavalierly sell thousands down the drain and further eliminate the right to one’s own choice in health care treatments for 14 million Ontarians.

2. Hello, I can tell you that it is not the Psychotherapy Advocates doing this. There is a gentleman out on the Danforth in Toronto who has headed up an organization of skeptics and NOW call themselves ” The Society of Science and Reason” They are positioning themselves in mainstream media spinning their agenda. If you go to Rupert Sheldrake’s site, you will read his tiff he had with the TED lectures. TED claim to have an “Independent board of scientists and experts” yet no one knows their name, nor can you have discussion with them. Rupert has written a book called ” The Science Delusion” and in it discusses 10 areas in which Science can improve and how Science has gotten mired down in issuing dogma. TED is run my skeptics, similar to James Randi and the like. Some of them are retired scientists and Medical Doctors who write convincing articles of their truth. In fact, they peddle an agenda of neodarwinism and rationalism and atheism and squash any evidence about your own interaction with nature. I spotted one recently who writes for the Globe and Mail and became suspect with which the article she wrote. At the end it dawned on me that she is this skeptic with an agenda of control and “science”. They are polemic in their attitude and once they write something, it is law. They are on the boards of various health societies. They also change their names as they go, not being called The Society of Science and Reason. Many times GreenMed.info has exposed their methods and they are not above lying. I have checked out a lot of their sources and found them to be not telling the truth at all, ignoring what does not support and taking what does. They are dogmatists. That is what is running their organizations. It is exclusion and rule of the strong and rich, very much a monkey-brain attitude of domination. When Hollywood actors spoke out against the Palestinian question and Israel’s part in it, some said it was the latter engaging in genocide. But I saw the program which they retracted their statements and said,” Well, we are not qualified to speak on this issue” Apparently this thinking is running amuck now in the halls of parliment. It was their plan to stamp out alternatives and make Canada a prestine and rational country. This is serious and they are convinced they are right. So, an agenda, dogma, sources, written in main stream media and they refuse to discuss it and when they do, they manipulate your sources and say it must be in main stream. This is not true rationalism but dogmatic tactics. Eric Hoskin, being a medical doctor, has bought into it, or at least someone under his flag has done so and given the go ahead. I cannot imagine why a political figure would want to take away thousands of jobs with the stroke of a pen. Skeptics are weak and frail in their arguments and mainstream is their protection…if you want to know more, email me.

   1. This actually started with Kathleen Wynne before she was Premier…in about 1999-2000 she was in on the discussions that started the ball rolling. We understand that this bunch tried this in 1977 and failed, regrouped and then covered all their bases. While claiming they will not define ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’ and claiming they will not regulate alternatives and holistic treatments, lone and behold, in the background, they were filling page after page of the definition of ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’ with approaches and techniques appropriated from alternatives. Did you know that Zen, pet and play therapies are now ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’ that only their exalted bunch can perform…because of the establishment of the treatment of human disturbances by psychotherapeutic techniques now being a ‘controlled act’? The new boys on the block suddenly have become experts at treatments available for centuries.

      See the 1st edition of this Dictionary of Clinical Psychology definition at: http://www.stoppsychotherapytakeover.ca/definitions-psychotherapeutic-techniques/ They had it all ready to present as ‘definition’ once the College was proclaimed and could enforce their ‘regulations’. It is hard to believe how our MPPs and MPs have sold us down the road to who ever, where ever as long as those lobby groups donate to their campaigns.

      We need generous contributions so that we can not only get this sickness repealed once and for all, but to ensure that protective legislation is securely in place so we don’t have to go through this every 30 years!

3. Yes it is even more disturbing than you might care to imagine. The wording itself is pure thought police and control attempts over the population, very scary stuff.

   If you allow the implications to connect, you will see that even ordinary people are subject to persecution for self-diagnosing their own situation, teachers may be prosecuted for assessing a child has an emotional or other situation, even the Bible or other revered books and writings subject for potential removal if they are not edited or approved by the “College” because the contents may conflict with the “College’s” mandate.

   Religions will no longer be allowed because they and their writings dispense ‘spiritual’ diagnosis and medicine of sorts.

   Healers of all persuasions will come under fire.

   Basically even doctors will be subject to fines because many doctors recognize the emotional underlying causes of some ailments and the list just goes on.

   Many attempts at similar legislation have been made in Ontario before. Some years back the Medical College tried something similar, the wording implying that if a mother determined her child needed an aspirin could be prosecuting for practicing medicine without a license and so on.

   What is it with Ontario and these crazy schemes they cook up one after the other over and over again???

   Yes the proposed College of Psychotherapy is attempting to create a totalitarian state where they end up in control of everything and everyone and they seem unwilling to listen to reason, so only a Court Ruling may bring them down.

   They appear so willing to diagnose everyone but themselves. Are we witnessing the birth of a group of psychopaths trying a legal “coup d’etat” ??

   Some serious action seems warranted, and yet many I have talked to seem to rely on some sort of ‘faith’ that it will resolve itself or that others will solve it, without getting off the couch themselves!

   1. We have just uncovered the list of treatments and approaches that qualify as ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’. it includes organic therapies such as massage therapy, reflexology, pet and play therapy….The list is found in the Dictionary of Clinical Psychology under Appendix and the number of treatments listed as psychotherapeutic is now at 312! So while the Transitional Council is deceiving us by saying that ‘psychotherapeutic technique’ is an undefined term…in the background the same people are building the list in a Dictionary that serves as their reference manual. Psychologists are manning this Transitional Council and both the Psychotherapy Act and the Psychology Act have been amended with the same wording. EVERYONE IS AFFECTED because everything is considered psychotherapeutic, including pet and play. It is hard to believe that our government is using our taxpayer dollars to remove our freedoms like this.

4. I actually studied psychotherapy for several years and ended up leaving the field as I found limiting. My instructors were actually unable to understand other modalities, their value and the fact that they require specific training and skills that they do not have. A modality such as reiki or shamanism cannot be incorporated into a psychotherapy program or practice by reading a book on it, as part of the course module.

5. The reality is that this bill has nothing to do with limiting therapy to a select group and everything to do with controlling and oppressing the population in general. Introducing laws which people will want/need to break so that they can be jailed and thus have their freedom taken away entirely. We are quickly moving toward a totalitarian state. People weren’t watching, they were shopping, going to hockey games, watching television, surfing the net, going to the nearest Starbucks to buy their lattes and otherwise ignoring the obvious signs all around them. It may be too late because I don’t see enough people willing to sacrifice and do whatever it takes to reverse this decline in moral accountability. I will support this and all efforts, of course, to show resistance. I don’t hold out much hope.

   1. What is amazing to us who are trying to fight this is that some individual groups are acting as armchair lawyers and seeing only what they want to see. Even some bereavement counselors…instead of understanding that they are treating emotional, cognitive, thinking, reasoning and social functioning issues when they treat bereavement clients, and are therefore engaged in the controlled act of psychotherapy, they claim that ‘someone in the know’ says they are safe, that the College has no intention of regulating alternatives and holistics. No, they sure don’t intend to regulate bereavement counselors…they intend to regulate what bereavement counselors DO…assessments and treatments, regardless of what one calls one’s therapy. So the College will not regulate bereavement counselors AS LONG as they don’t do assessments and treatments. It’s not hard to figure out they will be left with only administrative tasks to do all day.

      As well, we hear a US company is telling it’s Ontario hypnosis members they are safe as long as they play word games…don’t refer to depression, call it sadness. Don’t refer to treatment or therapy, call it coaching. Thus their members think they are safe to treat depression, fears and anxiety and PTSD as long as they call them new names or terms. What nonsense. The legislation clearly states that ANYONE who engages in assessments and treatments (as defined by the College), is in violation of the law. Starting a new language is not going to help any practitioners, especially since the definition of all terms is the exclusive right of the College.

      We received an interesting call from a person who is involved in helping the Traditional Chinese Medicine group fight back. Apparently in 2006, most practitioners who were not interested in joining the lobby group that set up a ‘regulatory body’ called the College of TCM and/or who could not meet their absurd requirements for registration, were also told that the College of TCM had no intention of regulating non-registrants (just as the College of Psychotherapy has said in our case). However , fast forward 5 years and now all groups not registered with the College of TCM have been slapped with an Interim Injunction (to stop all practicing of their therapies) while the College seeks to obtain a Permanent Injunction.

      Legislation with undefined terms and lots of backroom deals and claims of ‘intent’ not committed in writing in the legislation were suddenly left by the wayside and hundreds of TCM practitioners are now out of work. Sure, it is a violation of every moral and ethical standard known and of their democratic rights and the rights of their clients to choose their own TCM practitioners, but everyone sat on their duffs and pretended to hear what they wanted to hear. Now they are paying attention and it is too late.

      Freedom is not free folks…if you want Canada to remain democratic, you have to act now to stop this spreading right across Canada like the virus it is.

      1. I would like to know why this has not been reported in the news.
         I am a holistic practitioner and don’t like being told that I am now out of work as of October 1 nor can I attend whatever kind of healthcare I prefer. I plan on writing/phoning my MPP and contacting the media. When is the College of Psychotherapy planning on announcing these new rules to the general public? I would think a flood of media attention stating that the gov’t has approved legislation putting thousands of Ontarians & small businesses out of work would be noticed by the public and the government. It seems this campaign is being done without the general public’s knowledge. I would think a press release would get picked up by a news source.

         1. Stephanie,
            the reason it has not been announced by the psychologists and psychotherapists is because it is extremely wrong on all levels…it violates people’s right to free speech (our right to talk to whoever, whenever we want to and about whatever we want to). And violates our right to decide what’s right for ourselves without coercion. All RHPA ‘controlled acts’ are designed to do this. This should have had wide public debate before the Minister capitulated to psychologists demands back in 2009 to make all assessments of human conditions a ‘controlled act’.

            Are the public more protected because an act of psychiatry is a ‘controlled act’. On the contrary, more people are being maimed, killed and permanently damaged than ever before by psychiatric treatments. It is called a crime against humanity. As a result of psychiatry being a ‘controlled act’ complete with the trappings of legitimacy, we now have two categories of drug pushers: the illegal and the legal and the legal are protected while they push almost exactly the same stuff as the illegal.

            For the entire history of mankind, most people were able and often expected to know how to birth a child. Today, assisting with childbirthing is in the hands of a few as a result of a ‘controlled act’ of medicine and of midwifery. Is anyone protected? No, because no one has any choice in midwife or birthing method except that decided by the medical cartel and the handful of directors at the College of Midwifery. Less choices, more danger, more people forced into caesareans and onto drugs and more incompetence then ever…and on and on. Now you cannot have someone you trust and choose for yourself birthing your baby….mothers-to-be have lost all their freedoms to choose because everyone is gagged and hamstrung from communicating their services to her. Her own mother…the child’s grandmother…would be prevented from birthing the child!

            These violations of our freedom of speech and to choose our own treatments and the freedoms of practitioners to share their experience, talents and skills with the public was not brought to the public’s attention because it was done quietly by psychologists bending the then-Minister’s ear and getting their way to protect their turf. We understand that Kathleen Wynne was involved in this prior to 2009.

            We all know that Big Pharma, psychiatrists and psychologists control the media, therefore we are best to have the guidance of a top lawyer before we try to do anything in the media. The media spin everything to suit their masters. If this was not the case, some investigative journalist would have pounced on this gross violation of everyone’s rights immediately, back in 2007-2009. But as you can see it was ‘mum’s the word’.

            The big picture is this. Our democracy is being torn apart, one freedom after another, stealthily and not-so-subtly. Always the words ‘for your protection’ are used to set us up to agree to give up one basic human right after another. As Jesse Ventura is famous for saying “when the government tells you they are going to protect you…watch out, because you are sure to lose more rights and freedoms”.

            No one needs protection from free choice. We only need protection from monopolies the likes of conventional medicine because every time we turn around, they are telling us how superior they are and how they will decide for us what is best. The more people are forced onto conventional treatments, the higher the rates of suicide, depression and mental illnesses…not to mention health care costs. In fact, mental illnesses are manufactured at a rate that will ensure that soon, every single Canadian will have a mental illness diagnosis. This is extremely lucrative for those in power.

            We are all treated as though we are too stupid to decide for ourselves what is best for our lives and wellness. Now we are being forced into the medical model of mental, emotional and spiritual wellness at an alarming rate…the more that the public demonstrates through their willingness to pay-out-of-pocket for our services (over $7 Billion/year), the more the medical/pharmaceutical cartel will tighten the screws on our freedoms.

            They are not directly telling the public the public cannot speak freely, or have their choice of treatment. They are just removing the choices. They are cleverly making it illegal for the practitioners to offer the two most important parts of any health care service… the assessment and treatment… . Then they control the narrative you hear in the media.

            That means you cannot talk about or offer any of your services to those who seek you out for assistance with human disturbances. If practitioners cannot talk with you freely about your issues and offer their treatment for you to consider, then by muzzling you and I the public no longer has freedom of speech either.

            Psychologists and psychiatrists claim theirs is the best health care treatment…in fact, people are recognizing it is the worst. Disease and disorder caused by conventional medical treatments are the 3rd leading cause of death and disability. Further, there is no evidence that alternative, holistic, spiritual and energy treatments have ever harmed a single person.

            So all this distress foisted on everyone in Ontario, both practitioners and clients alike, is not about the best health care or about the least expensive …it is about turf protection. To have that turf protection, they must manufacture the public consent to be striped of their voices and their lives. They are telling you and I that if they make the decisions for us and if we agree to go underground or go out of business, the public will be ‘protected’. If we say no and fight back, because the constitution and the law is on our side, then tyrants will have to come back and try another day.

            Please contribute generously to the fund. Once we have an ethical lawyer working on this, then we will have the guidance we need. Freedom is not free. They are using millions of Big Pharma and medical cartel dollars to remove freedoms…we need to stand up and fight back. Don’t count on the media….we are losing our freedoms because the media was long ago bought and paid for.

   2. I agree with your assessment of their agenda however I personally hold on to very much hope. We are now in the age of Aquarius which, if you follow this sort of thing, means that dictatorial governments are on their way out (Picean Age) and will give way to methods that will better serve “The People” instead of the corporations, governments and banks.
      Although dealing with them through their court system (lawyers) is one method to attempt to confine their efforts, I believe that we should be looking back to our Common Law roots and awaken to the fact that we, as “The People” of Ontario, have unalienable rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms but we have not always availed ourselves of those rights.
      When you investigate scope of the “authority” of the “Legal System” you will find that it only applies to “Persons” under their definition and NOT to “The People”. We still have much power “at Queen’s Bench” (the People’s court). It was “the People” who created governments (and corporations) in order to serve us. They are the “public servants”, the created and we “The People” are their creator. Who is who’s boss now?
      This symptom of totalitarian oppression can be stopped when “The People” exercise their rights under Common Law. When done in numbers their threat will be exterminated at the source.
      Keep hope alive PeaceLoveGoddess.

      1. It is precisely because freedom is not free and we must lead the action against the oppression of our rights to our bodies and minds that we have undertaken legal initiatives to start discussions with the Minister of Health to right these wrongs. As former PM Trudeau once said “government has no place in the bedrooms of the nation”. We say, government has even less place in the health care choices of Ontarians and it needs to respect that fact. The public is not stupid and does not require a ‘nanny’ to dictate who is and who is not an appropriate practitioner. The government is far better, if it truly wants to serve the public good, to rein in Big Pharma, whose products kill people by the tens of thousands.

         All this ‘takeover’ started right after the Fraser Institute released its Study of CAMs in 2006. The writing was on the wall then for the medical/pharmaceutical model and sure as the sun rises every morning, Big Pharma started to manipulate counseling and treatments in Ontario, with the template for takeover eventually being taken right across Canada. If this is permitted to happen, there will be only two options for any treatment, drugs and talk therapy and drugs. Psychologists and nurses are lobbying for drug prescribing rights, so you can see that once this College of Psychotherapists, manned entirely by psychologists gets full control, the next step is drug pushing.

         I hate to have to say it, but hope without funding is going to get us where the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) practitioners are now…out of business. An eerily similar action was taken by the provincial government in 2006 (on the pretext of ‘protecting’ the public) when RHPA amendments made 2 important procedures used by all Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) practitioners ‘controlled acts’. One of them was acupuncture. Despite many TCM practitioners not registered with the new College being led to believe they were ‘safe’, recently 6 associations and centres dedicated to teaching and certifying TCM and two well-known TCM practitioners were slapped with Interim Injunctions, while the College seeks a Permanent Injunction. Control of all TCM in Ontario is now in the hands of one ‘College’.

         In our case, the 2 most important aspects of our practices (of all kinds) is assessment and treatment; both are under total control and dictates of a handful of lobbyists.

6. There should be freedom of choice. There are many practitioners who offer valuable alternative services that are not psychotherapy. Any legislation should only be to keep people from using the psychotherapy title if they are not qualified for that particular service, not to outlaw every other form of help.

7. I received life altering assistance from someone who offered me genuine support and he is not psychotherapist. For that reason, I support this cause

8. Oh, forgot to add, I signed both petitions.

   When we will find out if the Proclamation has been postponed and if a lawyer has been hired?

   Theo

   1. You are so right Theo. No one should have to become a psychotherapist to practice their chosen modality. None of us are psychotherapists, none of us want to become psychotherapists and none of us want to have them replace with their ‘versions’ what we have done extremely well for decades. And I can say ‘extremely well’ because people by the millions are willing to spend out-of-pocket for our services. We do assessments and treatments of all sorts of conditions and of all manner of severity…we do not do psychotherapy. Most of us have practice insurance and most of us belong to organizations that have codes of ethics, etc. You don’t hear of alternatives, holistic, spiritual and energy practitioners being involved in scandals, but you do of the conventional groups.

      This is a gross violation of our and our clients Charter of Rights and Freedoms and no one should join. Freedom is not free, we must fight for it. We have no rights until we demand enforcement of our existing rights. This move by psychologists (yes, they man the College of Psychotherapy), who are incidentally lobbying hard for drug prescribing rights, are positioning themselves to manipulate and coerce everyone in order to move the mental health field to meet their own agenda. If this is permitted for one moment, the only option will soon be pharmaceutical drugs. ALWAYS follow the money.

      Please donate generously to our legal fund, so that we can not only get these amendments repealed, but get legislated protection for all holistic, alternative, energy and spiritual treatments that the public clearly prefers. We are working hard on this, the Minister of Health has already been approached for a postponement to allow for Ministerial Consultation.

   2. A lawyer has already been on the job since April, researching this entire issue and has sent an urgent letter to the Minister of Health requesting a postponement of the amendments to all three acts that were done simultaneously (Psychotherapy Act, the Psychology Act and the RHPA) to allow for a Ministerial Consultation. No answer has been received from the Minister yet, however, obviously the letter has had great impact, as the College is ramping up its misleading letter-writing campaign. Recently they released a letter saying they are not going to bother the alternative, holistic, energy and spiritual practitioners AS LONG as they don’t do ‘assessments and treatments’! So we are expected to feel good about having a title and skills that people desire while not being able to use them.

      As soon as we get news, we will post it on this website. We are re-vamping this website to make it easy to find this information and all the major documentation. As folks help us out more with the funding so we can maintain this website and continue to pay the legal fees, we will be able to push back harder, faster, more efficiently. We have called in all the angels…they are helping big time 🙂

   3. So, all parents now must get a psychotherapy degree. No one can become a parent. Also bullies will be guilty of augmenting the mental state of another, and therefor be charged for their crimes. Yeah that’s good but they’re not criminals, they’re just kids.

9. Thank you for fighting this fight.

   I am a Registered Family Therapist. I understand the need to protect the public, but I am already governed by a Code of Ethics and an Ethics Committee as a condition for my continued membership. I am also required to maintain malpractice insurance. If this bill passes I will no longer be able to practice as a Family Therapist UNLESS I also register as a Psychotherapist. In short, I would have to be registered with two organizations with double fees. If I don’t join, I won’t be allowed to practice using my title (as I have for 21 years!). That is over-reaching madness and it must be stopped. If people want to voluntarily register to be known as a Psychotherapist, let them, but we should not be forced to do so. I am a Family Therapist; NOT a psychotherapist!

10. Why a “Spiritual Healer” doesnt use the “Spiritual Healer Title”and an “NLP Healer” doesnt use the same title of “NLP Healer”. NLP and Hypnotherapy can be used as alternatives by a Psychotherapist too. If these healers think they are legitimate why they dont try to have their own college? Like Naturopaths who don’t claim to be a Physician, a Spritual Healer should not use the title of psychotherapist.

    To take part in an NLP class you dont need to have a specific education. Even a civil engineer can take a couple of NLP courses and start helping people around him by what he has learned in NLP but not under the title of psychotherapist. Or u can start teaching English as a tutor but u can not call your self a registered teacher unless you have a specific education related to teaching and become a member of “college of teachers of Ontario” or other provinces; And of course it is up to people to choose between some one who knows English very well or some one who knows the methods of teaching too. Maybe even you try both and your child gets a better mark with the regular English teacher but this doesnt mean that the Regular Teacher could claim to be a Registered Teacher.

    The same is for Hypnotherapists or NLP Healers. They can not call them selves a dependent therapists unless they have a specific educational back ground which is needed by the related regulator (CRPO); and it is up to people to choose between people who know NLP very good and the people who are therapists too.

    1. The point is that psychotherapists cannot even define themselves, so why should they suddenly be permitted to tell everyone else how things should be done? Obviously the public loves the way alternative, holistic, energy and spiritual practitioners operate …they keep coming back and after decades of time-testing, all these modalities of human healing are still around and getting more popular by the day.

       There is no scientific support for any of the claims that psychologists/psychotherapists make about their ‘expertise’, ‘effectiveness’ and so on. Their claims are nothing but self-promotion and they believe that if they repeat how important they are to how Ontario health care works, that eventually everyone will believe them and ‘give in’ to be ruled by those in a huge conflict of interest from the get-go.

       No one needs a Master’s degree in order to help others heal. And certainly millions of people have been healed by alternative practitioners who had no association with psychotherapists and psychologists whatever. Psychotherapists are free to use any of the techniques that alternative practitioners do if they like, but that doesn’t mean they suddenly ‘own’ them and no one else can use them. No one has ever said they couldn’t use techniques from other effective modalities, even though, since they do not accept the role of spirit in healing, they probably shouldn’t.

       They are not free however, to surround themselves with the trappings of officialness and then declare everyone has to become a psychotherapist and come under their rule to practice what they been doing quite well for decades and centuries without regulation. This lobby group has appropriated many techniques from other modalities of healing in the last 4-5 years, in concert with their plans to take over all assessments and treatments of human disturbances by legislation. Thus now they claim these borrowed techniques are ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’, exclusively theirs to use.

       There is no way that ‘spiritual psychotherapy’ could be more efficient and effective than decades-old spiritual counseling that has been time tested. First, it was ‘manufactured’ in 2009, by psychotherapists who have consistently stated spiritual work is quackery and spirit does not exist…so there is an ethical issue right there. How can psychotherapists who do not believe in spirit suddenly become experts in spiritual counseling after only 5 years in the business of ‘spiritual psychotherapy’? Similarly with hypno-psychotherapy, where the grossest of abuses of hypnosis were perpetrated by the licensed professions on innocent victims in the 1990s…false memory implanted about sexual abuse, multiple personalities and satanic cults. Non-licensed practitioners have never been involved in such things.

       Why should any practitioner, especially holistic, alternative, energy and spiritual practitioners, be regulated by psychotherapists for any reason? There is no scientific evidence that alternatives are unsafe, lots of empirical evidence and even some studies showing they are very effective in many areas of serious human disturbances. There is no scientific evidence that psychotherapists are effective at treating human disturbances of any severity, let alone of serious conditions (whatever that will eventually be defined as) or that they should be in any position to regulate anyone but themselves. By making everything ‘psychotherapy’, suddenly they are be-alls of every treatment ever known.

    2. I have a masters degree in Applied Psychology and over 27 years of experience and additional credentials. More significant, I believe, is the self healing work that I completed with the assistance if a non-traditional practitioner which provided me with the solid foundation on which I built my practice. I would not begin my practice based on pure academic achievement which I found to be lacking.
       I have submitted my application to become “registered” as it is a condition of my part time employment and to be honest did not feel in alignment with this whole process. I am so appreciative that this information came to me. ..and wish to add my voice. I too agree with what you have outlined about the valid concerns about the certification process and it’s direction of exclusivity. I perceive this to be an issue of control and power…to eliminate the validity of alternative treatment approaches that do not conform to the standards set out by those who maintain that they are “right” and “justified” while negating the contributions of those who differ.
       What I find to be confusing in all of these established criteria that is being demanded (masters degree,course requirements etc) is why doctors and nurses are being exempt…. I do not understand why – as they do not even approximate the “requirements” being set forth.
       I have, in my experience, treated doctors and nurses – and find it concerning that they are somehow deemed worthy enough to not follow the standards set out for the rest of the practitioners. This whole movement towards certification appears to be the work of those who seek the power to coerce and manipulate the field of counselling towards their own ends. There is, to my knowledge, no solid evidence that suggests that clients are being harmed by non-traditional approaches other than the limitations in minds of the regulatory bodies – which I believe is more indicative of their own fear-based approach rather then a reflection of reality. I believe that the onus should be put on them to establish an abuse that surpasses it’s own professions abuse to justify and warrant this direction.

       1. Thank you Linda for the honest feedback. I could not have said it better myself. There is not only no evidence that clients have ever been harmed by non-conventional approaches over the decades, but there is lots of evidence that they have been helped, safely and cost-effectively. However, there is also lots of evidence that conventional treatments have seriously harmed and even caused the death of patients.

          Why should anyone have to become a registered psychotherapist to practice their preferred modality? They have no special powers, talents, skill-sets or success rates and cannot even define themselves as a profession or define their ‘techniques’. Thus they are appropriating all sorts of ‘techniques’ from other groups and then telling Ontario they are experts and everyone should be ‘regulated’ by them.

          It is precisely because alternatives are not ‘regulated’ by coercive lobby groups that their work is so successful and people are increasingly preferring them over conventional therapists. The cream rises to the top of the various professions of alternative healing, not because of opinion and lobbying and tyranny, but because the public likes the results. The health care world should be left to the public to manage…if the results are not positive, the practice will quickly dissolve, since alternative, holistic, energy and spiritual practices have to stand on their own two feet.

          Our health care system is imploding, precisely because lobby groups lacking scientific evidence that they are at all effective, regulate on opinion, empty theories and circular thinking…and of course suppression and coercion of those that are successful. And our tax dollars keep supporting their nonsense as legitimate health care to the detriment of every citizen.

          This new College of Psychotherapy is manned by psychologists. Psychologists are lobbying hard for prescribing rights and have always been negative towards holistic, spiritual and alternative treatments. You can see where this is all going and who is behind it and why.

          Further, the courses they decided one has to take to become ‘spiritual psychotherapists’ are sold and promoted by psychotherapists…and round and round we go as they surround themselves with the trappings of authority they have not earned. They will then monopolize the airwaves and convince the media of their superiority and more innocent citizens will be duped. The arrogance of a group thinking that they can manufacture a new ‘profession’ to replace decades and even centuries of proven counseling methods is positively breathtaking.

          I believe no one should be forced to become ‘registered’ with the College. It is not legitimate and doing so ‘dignifies’ legislation that violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms of not only practitioners, but of the entire population of Ontario. I believe that you should point out to your employer that forcing you to join a College that is violating the Charter of Rights and Freedoms with it’s ‘legislation’, is a violation of your rights too.

          The College is working hard to make alternative and holistic practitioners believe they are ‘safe’ from prosecution, but if these practitioners listen to the whole ‘clarification’ of the CRPO, they will learn that CRPO is saying…”sure, practice Reiki, Hypnotherapy, Spiritual Counseling, and so on, but you better not assess and treat human conditions, otherwise you are engaged in an ‘act of psychotherapy’!” So everyone is left with a practice, a title and no way to make a living. There is a reason why the wording of the legislation is so convoluted and obfuscating…so that people will believe that it’s ok to allow all assessments and treatments of human conditions to be deemed ‘an act of psychotherapy’. It is not OK… assessment and treatment is an act of assessment and treatment, not an ‘act of psychotherapy’, except in the minds of those who want to manipulate the field of mental and psycho-spiritual health and wellness towards their own ends.

    3. And this is the problem with our society, and educational systems.
       Why is a “Spiritual Healer” not considered an important piece of our healing?
       Why has “someone” deemed that until one has a “sufficient” designation behind his or her name they are useless?

       Our world is in dire straits. Is the Physics high school teacher (with the degree) able to help with this? Likely not.

       I am tired of groups trying to use their connections and their “muscle” to convince elected officials that they need to be protected, and in so doing, others who may be just as helpful and successful in their practices…. thrown to the wayside.

       These are new energies… it is now 2014… some of you need to wake up.

    4. What a load of garbage. What you fail to appreciate is that many people choose alternative practitioners after having tried the conventional “approved” approaches to NO AVAIL… sometimes for YEARS. And ONLY THEY can tell you whether or not they received a benefit: it is totally subjective and apropos only to individual cases. No legislator can tell anyone what helped them!

       According to this piece of crap legislation, friends can’t help friends, sports coaches can’t help their team members, parents can’t help their own kids, teachers cannot counsel students, and people are NOT ALLOWED to form a relationship of trust with ANYONE other than the “approved” variety. Horse hockey!!

       I have a degree in metaphysics, which includes spiritual counseling with respect to the body-mind connection. I double dog dare anyone to DISPROVE the already proven, which is that the mind is ALWAYS involved in physical illness, and FIND ME a so-called “psychotherapist” who can do what I can do. If you can’t, you have NO RIGHT to legislate against my practice, or against anyone else whose clients are happy with the services received.

       Meanwhile, according to the DSM5, literally every human emotion, if elevated (excessive anger, depression over a breakup… whatever….), constitutes a “disorder”… look it up!!!….. which now may ONLY be treated by one of these college flacks? Please!! So your kid is having a tantrum and you HAVE to take him to a Psych doctor? Who the hell owns our bodies and minds? Us, or the government?

       This attempt to keep people in the emotional dark ages must be stopped, before we have to ask the government which way to wipe our asses, and are not allowed to ask our parents how to do that because it might have to do with our emotions!!

11. For clarification in regard to some of the misinformation being put forth on this site, this came from the CRPO today:

    “Limited forms of counselling, e.g. providing advice, instruction, information, support, referral, etc., are not regulated, and are specifically exempted under the RHPA, as is spiritual counselling. Some spiritual counsellors with extensive additional training in psychotherapy (sometimes known as “spiritual care therapists”) will seek registration with the College, and will become registered if they meet registration requirements – the same as any other applicant.

    Registration requires completion of:
    a coherent program in psychotherapy requiring an undergraduate degree for admission to the program, or
    a master’s program central to the practice of psychotherapy, or
    a program in the Indigenous practice of psychotherapy, or
    a substantially equivalent program.
    Registration of established practitioners via ‘grandparenting’ is another avenue and will be available for two years following proclamation of the Psychotherapy Act, 2007. Registration requirements for grandparenting are somewhat more flexible.”

    1. Why should any group be reduced to what are basically administrative tasks or required to become psychotherapists in order to practice their chosen modality? Psychotherapy has never proven itself to be reliable and or most efficient for any condition. It isn’t even defined…so why suddenly is it supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of treatments for human issues? Because they say so? And who is ‘they’? They refuse to define themselves!

       Let us not forget that the biggest names in psychotherapy — Freud, Jung for starters — were unable to resolve their severe mental and addiction issues and committed suicide. But it is the teachings of these very same people that psychotherapists today rely on, with about the same results.

       Why should any spiritual counselor suddenly be told that he/she must abandon what they do to take up ‘spiritual psychotherapy’ when this is not even a legitimate profession…it was coined in about 2009 in concert with the amendments being forced on us, so that when the time came, which is now, they can push out all effective spiritual counselors and replace what they do with ‘spiritual psychotherapy? Spiritual psychotherapy, incidentally is taught by a business founded by 2 psychotherapists (Transformational Arts College) and their courses are required in order to be accepted as qualified to practice spiritual counselling. Notice how the CRPO did not point out that conflict of interest?

       While CRPO claims that alternatives will be safe from prosecution, they also say that they’re are safe only as long as they don’t engage in the assessment and treatment of human disturbances. The CRPO also goes on to clarify that anyone engaged in the assessment and treatment of human disturbances is engaged in an ‘act of psychotherapy’ because they have decided so. There are many assessment and treatment approaches, including for severe issues, that have nothing to do with psychotherapy whatever, but that are effective and efficient and preferred for decades by informed and discerning people.

       The citizens of Ontario are not fools…they go to where they get what they feel is effective treatment. They should continue to be allowed to do that, especially since they pay out-of-pocket. But if psychotherapists are deciding what is appropriate spiritual, hypnotherapeutic, energetic and holistic treatment, when they have never accepted these as equals, then anyone should be able to see that no one will have a choice before very long. If people want to go to a psychotherapist or psychologist, they know they are free to go, but now that millions are choosing mind-body-spirit treatments, this very group has set out to force citizens to accept what they don’t want through this underhanded legislation.

       So while the CRPO has led some people to believe that alternatives are safe from prosecution, you need to read on to learn that they are safe as long as they don’t do a single thing that psychotherapists (psychologists) want as their exclusive domain…which is all assessments and treatments of human disturbances. Yes, I hear you saying ‘serious conditions’…but remember they won’t define that term either, until they are on your door step.

       It should bother everyone that not a single term in that legislation is defined. So it is easy to see that Reiki, hypnotherapy, spiritual treatments will be considered treatments for ‘serious’ conditions and that talking about any problems with an individual will be deemed ‘assessing and treating’. So yes, as they say, practice Reiki, hypnotherapy, hypnosis, crystal healing, energy healing…but be sure not to do assessments and treatments!
       
       Another grave problem with this whole matter is that the psychotherapists and psychologists are in a serious conflict of interest. They see alternatives as competition and have never stopped denigrating energy work, claiming that ‘mind, body, spirit’ treatments are quackery. Now they are going to regulate what they deem as quackery and quacks because the public increasingly is moving away from conventional treatments.

       What the CRPO is not telling the public is that statistics have shown that the medical profession commits suicide at twice the rate of the general population and experience addictions, divorce and mental illness at twice the rate of the general population as well. In addition, 42% of those professionals who committed suicide were in treatment with psychotherapists. If there was ever a reason to ensure that the public has a clear option, this has to be a good one.

       While the Transitional Council claims they have to regulate everyone because some practitioners are not ‘ethical’, let us not forget that major scandals in the conventional treatment world were perpetrated by psychotherapists, psychiatrists and psychologists, not by alternative and holistic practitioners. Remember the false memory, satanic cult and multiple personality scandals of 1990’s where innocent patients were embedded with horrible false memories by these very same people…where many killed themselves over it, where thousands of families were destroyed? Read Sybil and Sybil exposed for a real eye-opener.

       Psychotherapists would be very hard pressed to show that they are safe and effective if put to a test. Yet, I’m sure you have heard of no one who committed suicide while under treatment with holistic, energy, alternative and spiritual practitioners. In fact, I know of no incident where anyone has ever been hurt or put at risk by any alternative treatment…but there are hundreds of thousands walking around severely damaged by conventional treatments.

       No hypnotherapist should ever be regulated by a non-hypnotherapist. Psychotherapists have had a documented hate-on for all spiritually-based treatment modalities, and licensed professionals have wanted to see the use of hypnosis by any one but licensed professionals (yes, same ones as involved in the scandals) prohibited. They want hypnosis for their exclusive use, however, it seems that some of the best work done all over the world is done by non-licensed professional hypnotherapists and hypnotists.

       Psychotherapists and psychologists should never be permitted to in any way affect other practitioners, and especially not by wording legislation that makes everything we do an act of what they do.

       1. Bravo, and thank you for that explanation… because a lot of people will look at that so-called “exception” and think “oh well, that doesn’t apply here”… and come to find out, yes it does, and they can twist it around any way they want.
          The CRPO is feeding its own here and trying to keep all the business to itself… unfair, not right, not proper, UNACCEPTABLE!

          1. We hope that all those practitioners who are sitting there thinking ‘it won’t affect me’ wake up and smell the dog-doo in all this legislation. Any legislation that states that ‘assessments and treatments of human conditions by verbal or non-verbal means is a controlled act of psychotherapy’ is way more than about ‘protection of the public’. Since statistics clearly show that it is them that are most dangerous to the public and that the public find us the safest (and obviously if we trust that the public can think for themselves, most effective) this entire scheme of psychologists (they man the new College of Psychotherapy) to manipulate and coerce the entire mental health and counseling field to its own ends must be stopped asap.

             We need every practitioner to understand that no one is safe…there are no definitions in the legislation for a reason. We need every practitioner to contribute $200 to help fund the legal effort to save the entire CAM movement from elimination.

          2. Perfectly said. Now, lets get the legal team funded and out there fighting for everyone’s right to effective, safe, dignified treatments OF THEIR CHOICE!

12. What is next? Hugging? prayer? visualization?

    1. If you hug a person who is having suicidal thoughts or who is experiencing extreme grief at the loss of a loved one…you are engaging in the individual communication by non-verbal means of a treatment for a ‘serious’ condition. This makes it an ‘act of psychotherapy’. Tyrants know no bounds of decency…power corrupts absolutely. Amendments that give psychotherapists and psychologists this much power over health care is an extremely dangerous slippery slope. We all have rights to be free of these controllers, but only if we enforce them.

13. Is this going to include AA Sponsors, and for that matter AA itself?

    From what I can see, AA, NA, OA and any other 12 Step program is administering therapy or counseling for emotional, behavioral and cognitive issues both in the meetings and via sponsors.

    Comments?

    1. Dan, this is going to affect any individual communication, by verbal or non-verbal means, for the assessment and treatment of human disturbances. If you assess and treat any condition of human disturbances, you are engaged in an ‘act of psychotherapy’. This makes you a target for witch hunts based solely on opinion, if not right away after the Lieutenant-Governor signs on the dotted line, then soon enough. They threw in ‘of serious conditions’ for good measure, but since they are not defining anything, you can be sure everything will be ‘serious’ eventually. In fact, shyness is now considered a mental illness.

       Psychotherapists, who, incidentally, insist on remaining undefined, are no more qualified to treat ‘serious’ conditions then they are to treat spiritual, psycho-spiritual, addiction, mental, emotional or other conditions and certainly, they are not safer or more effective at treating any conditions of human disturbances then any other group. But they have positioned themselves as the ‘experts’ in human disturbances with claims only they are ‘expert’ enough to assess and treat other human beings. Worse, they are telling other Ontarians they have no choice but to use one of their ‘registered’ psychotherapists…so much for democracy.

       If any counselor, spiritual, addiction or otherwise, does not have a Master’s degree or the ridiculous alternative they demand in order to be registered with the College, none of which has anything to do with the effective and efficient healing of others, you are violating the Psychotherapy Act. And if you are registered with them, you will have to abandon your training and everything you do that works to come into line with their treatment regulations. If you are a spiritual counselor, or any counselor of any kind, you are reduced to administrative tasks now, and you must become a registered psychotherapist or spiritual psychotherapist, which is the newly manufactured ‘profession’ positioned to replace real, genuine spiritual counseling.

       Even psychiatric service dogs used successfully with PTSD sufferers will be violating the Act. They assess the symptoms and then treat their masters on the spot, based on the severity of the symptoms. The inclusion of the words ‘by verbal or non-verbal means’ may have had the intention of making it possible later to end psychiatric service dog treatments for PTSD, as well as NLP, EFT and so on.

       When you see the statistics of the number of medical professionals who commit suicide while under the care of conventional practitioners such as psychotherapists, psychologists and psychiatrists, you will see that psychotherapists are probably the worst suited to be in a position to regulate any treatments, especially dignified, effective alternatives that don’t label others.

       Shortly, a comprehensive document laying out the amendments to the acts, their impact and the Transitional Council’s letter response to the Reiki Association will be posted here. The Reiki Association is under the impression that they are ‘safe’, when the Transitional Council’s letter to them did not once remotely say they were safe, but reiterated that the College will prosecute and let the courts decide if a person was engaged in an ‘act of psychotherapy’. As well, the letter to the Minister of Health demanding the signing of these amendments into law will be posted here.

       While any prosecution is likely to fail and they know it, an innocent practitioner/counselor could be kept in court and prevented from earning a living for years by this College.

       The act of assessment and treatment of ANY human condition of any severity or type is an act of assessment and treatment, not an ‘act of psychotherapy’. Psychotherapy is only one approach and now that millions of people have decided they prefer alternatives, psychologists manning this new College are positioned to force the public to accept their unwanted treatments, by making alternatives unavailable. This cannot be allowed to happen in our Canada. No lobby group should ever be given power to dictate to others what they should have for treatments of their conditions in a democracy.

14. hey grace can you please email me. I am an NLP trainer.

15. In addition to the above petitions, I would strongly recommend a physical letter be sent to the Minister of Health as well. You may wish to post guidance for people wishing to do this. Physical letters carry a great deal of weight with elected officials because of the time required to write them they know the matter is of great importance.

    1. I totally agree with this statement, but I ask that everyone wait just a week or so longer, until we can get all the new information posted and you will all understand more clearly just how severe the problem is and why. It will make it easier to word your letters. We are still waiting on the lawyer to release his response to the latest comments by the Transitional Council to the Canadian Reiki Association. We had expected this to be done almost a month ago now, but my understanding is that they are still ‘working on it’.

16. We will fight the good fight

17. As taxpayers we should have the freewill and free choice of whom and where we receive treatment. If treatment by whatever method is helpful…no other single group should control or minimize our options. If you or someone you love needs help would you not exhaust or use all and any options available. We live in a abundant society we have to ask ourselves who’s behind these limitations.

    1. You are so correct Anna.

       This is a nasty group of people who are having trouble making it on their own merits and as they see people by the millions opting for dignified, effective, safe, alternative treatments, many of which have been around for decades and centuries, they do what nasty people do…embed unjust, undemocratic legislation into a huge Omnibus Bill and then sit back, chopping at the bit to do witch hunts.

       As increasingly more information comes out, people will shudder at just how nasty these people are. Not only have they made the assessments and treatments of human disturbances an ‘act of psychotherapy’, they added weasel words like ‘serious conditions’, ‘serious impairments’, ‘psychotherapeutic techniques’ and then refuse to define them. They suggest they are the only ones ‘expert’ enough to treat serious conditions, when there is no independent scientific evidence to support that they can even effectively treat minor conditions, let alone serious conditions!

       In fact, we have communication from the Transitional Council of this College that states they will not define any terms, including psychotherapy; instead they will prosecute and let the courts decide! They cannot win in court with such violations of charter rights and freedoms, but they don’t care because no doubt the idea is to exhaust practitioners one at a time. The eventual financial and emotional exhaustion caused thousands of practitioners (and their clients who have come to depend on them), will quickly push innocent people out of their livelihood.

       We have learned that spiritual counselors will essentially be reduced to administrative tasks and if they want to offer more indepth treatments, they have to become ‘spiritual psychotherapists’. Now this is truly a magic trick. In about 2007-2009, seemingly in concert with the establishment of the offensive legislation, they suddenly manufacture a brand new profession out of thin air…’spiritual psychotherapy’. This was quite important to being able to monopolize the spiritual counseling field and push out ‘real, genuine’ spiritual counselors who walk the talk.

       Here’s yet another kicker… To become registered with the College, one must take ‘training’ in this non-existent profession. The only training I could find that would meet the College’s criteria seemed to be from the Transformational Arts College of Holistic and Spiritual Training. Guess who the founders and Directors are?

       Of course, the founders of the training centre for this newly manufactured profession are psychotherapists.

       Alternative practitioners of all kinds and spiritual counselors efficiently and effectively assess and treat SERIOUS disturbances of all sorts of human disturbances that psychologists and psychotherapists can only dream about treating effectively….fears, obsessions, addictions, psycho-spiritual crises, depression, ADHD, grief and on and on. Yet this new non-profession is intending to push aside decades of well-defined treatments …

       THE ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT OF HUMAN DISTURBANCES OF ALL SEVERITIES AND TYPES IS AN ACT OF ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT, not an ‘act of psychotherapy’! Psychotherapy is only one of many approaches, with no scientific evidence suggesting that psychotherapy, even if defined, is remotely the most cost effective at treating any conditions of human disturbances.

       The arrogance of this bunch is positively breathtaking. Some have contacted me suggesting that we ‘misunderstand’ the intent. How stupid do they think we are? The legislation is very clear in it’s intent and the intent is to use vague terms, undefined words, manufactured ‘authority’ to take over all assessments and treatments of humans. What we do for a living, according to this law, is now an ‘act of psychotherapy’. I’m sure not a single one of us (alternatives) ever considered becoming a psychotherapist instead of what they did decide to do for a living. At least I never remotely want to be pooled in with that bunch.

       We are safe, dignified and what the public is increasingly seeking and satisfied to pay out-of-pocket for. We do not and should not ever be regulated by psychotherapists, psychologists and psychiatrists and of course the drug industry that operates in the background…the entire cartel has made it abundantly clear that energy and spirit workers are quacks.

       Well, the ‘quacks’ are effective and they should not be systematically eliminated by acrobatic linguistics and weasel words that makes psychotherapy the be-all and end-all of the treatment world.

       Soon we will be posting breathtaking new information…check back often and please be sure to sign the Care2 petitions:

       1. Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demands the Minister of Health repeal oppressive legislation)

       2. Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demands the Minister of Health take steps to ensure free-choice for all Ontarians.

       While you all can donate at this site, we are also working on a crowdfunding campaign with Indiegogo.

       Bless you all….freedom is not free, but we have the courage of our convictions.

       Grace 🙂

18. Let’s band together

    1. Yes, we can do this! I just learned from my colleague who has been a tremendous help with all this (Joni, take a bow :)) that Alberta is actually setting up a system to assist alternative and complementary practitioners to set up practice in Alberta! Yet here in Ontario, the government is assisting tyrants to oppress and eliminate safe, effective alternative and complementary practitioners…presumably because we are so safe and effective and this is interfering with their profit-taking.

       Be sure to sign both these petitions to help us out:

       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demands the Minister of Health repeal oppressive legislation)

       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demands the Minister of Health take steps to protect alternative, holistic and spiritual practitioners from further harassment and ensure free-choice for all Ontarians.

19. Thanks so much for posting this up. The act is very confusing. I let my connections know.

    1. Thank you for the feedback. Please check back again soon, as we will be posting a legal reply to the response the Transitional Council has sent to the Reiki Association. It is abundantly clear that witch hunts will soon start once the Lieutenant-Governor signs off on the amendments.

       Bottom line is that ALL assessments and treatments of human disturbances’ are the purview of psychotherapists and when the College becomes proclaimed they will ‘enforce’ this ‘law’. Psychotherapists are not defined, do not define their techniques, will not define any terms in the legislation and so on. They say they will prosecute and leave it all up to the courts…in the process financially and emotionally exhausting innocent practitioners of all sorts of safe, sought-after alternative treatments. This is as sick as it gets…to suggest that psychotherapy is the be-all and end-all of assessments and treatments of human conditions of all severity, when in fact, they might well be shown to be least effective.

20. This is ridiculous. So what does this mean for reiki healers?

    1. Please see above…check back and soon we will have a legal response to the Reiki Association posted.

21. “Stop Psychotherapy Takeover”

22. Would you please give a link to the proposed new wording of the legislation? I searched around on the web and didn’t find it. Thanks.

    1. Hello Catherine! Indeed it is very interesting how everyone is having a problem trying to find out about the legislation designed to put everyone out of business…even the MPPs were having difficulty. Soon we will have a summary and a legal response to the Transitional Council’s letter to the Reiki Association posted at this website and it will all become clear.

23. People should be given a choice to choose the best and more holistic and inclusive system of health care. It should also be covered under OHIP or insurance plans.

    1. BE sure to sign the petitions (there are two)
       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demanding the Minister repeal this legislation)
       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demanding the Minister protect alternative practitioners from lobby groups like this)

24. Wow, what an informative website. I knew my psychotherapist colleagues were preparing to ensure they met the requirements for new legislation, however, I did not know what the spillover effects were for other practitioners.

    I see that Grace is facilitating the conversations on this page. I would love to hear how she came to discover this information and learn more about her passion behind the cause.

    I also would like to know a little more about the law firm. As their website is under construction and there isn’t a lot of information there.

    I do appreciate all of the incredible information that is shared here, and I honour the people who are behind this movement to help anyone who may be affected by the pending legislation. Would love a little bit more information about the passionate people behind this.

    Thank you~

    1. Hello Jennifer,
       as people are finding out, even psychotherapists who do not have a Masters or the ridiculous equivalent are in violation of these amendments. Now, spiritual counselling has been reduced to administrative tasks and centuries of teachings and training are being shoved aside and replaced by ‘spiritual psychotherapy’ taught by two psychotherapists. This is a brand new profession since about 2007…set up by to replace real spiritual therapy.

       The arrogance of any group, who even refuses to define itself and it’s techniques, relying instead on appropriating the safe, time-proven techniques of so many other legitimate professions in order to legitimize themselves as a ‘profession’, is as sick as it gets.

       Keep checking back at this website. Soon we hope to post a summary of the legislation, a letter the Transitional Council has sent to the Reiki Association and the lawyer’s response.

       Please consider signing and passing on two important petitions:
       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demanding the Minister repeal this legislation)
       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demanding the Minister protect alternative practitioners from lobby groups like this)

       Also, we are desperately in need of donations at http://www.Stop PsychotherapyTakeover.ca to fund the legal work needed to get this legislation repealed.

       With many thanks,
       Grace
       ps. someday I will have an opportunity to share how I became involved.

25. This is an outright attack on religious freedom, as well as an attack on our freedom to deal with our health issues, in ways that we would prefer… and as such, I am totally and 100% against this action that is being taken.

    1. Please do help with fund-raising by donating at http://www.StopPsychotherapyTakeover.ca and keep passing on the word. Perhaps spiritual groups could start fund-raising events and donate en masse to the cause. As we will show in new documents to be posted on this site soon, spiritual counselors are already downgraded to ‘administrative tasks’ and will be replaced by ‘spiritual psychotherapists’…a profession manufactured by a couple of psychotherapists in about 2007, just about the time they decided to take over all treatments.

       It is vitally important also that everyone sign the 2 petitions asap and pass on, so that we can show the Minister of Health we will not stand for this in our Canada..
       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demanding the Minister repeal this legislation)
       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demanding the Minister protect alternative practitioners from lobby groups like this)

26. I’m not sure I understand the link between having Reiki and Psychotherapy.

    1. Hi,
       there is no link. What psychologists did was to legislate that ‘all assessments and treatments of human disturbances’ by verbal and non-verbal means is an ‘act of psychotherapy’. So if you are engaging in any healing work of another by reiki or other energy form, you are engaging in a ‘act of psychotherapy’.

27. People need to have the freedom to choose the manner of their healing.

28. Keep up the fight against this ridiculous act and inform the public

    1. We need everyone’s help. Please sign both petititions to the minister and pass on:

       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demanding the Minister repeal this legislation)
       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demanding the Minister protect alternative practitioners from lobby groups like this)

       Please donate what you can at http://www.StopPsychotherapyTakeover.ca with thanks!

29. I have been a Reiki Master since 2005 and hypnotherapist since 2007 and I am currently using both as a facilitator in spiritual growth. This outrages me to no end! Another way a person’s rights are taken away. People who come to me or take my classes do so as they do not wish to go the conventional usually drug pushing route. Give us practitioners credit for knowing what to say, when to pass on the individual to those with more training. Instead of this bill being passed we need to find ways of including what we do in the health care system. All the power to this petition!

30. At a very difficult time in my life I was referred to a psychiatrist in the hopes of getting out of depression and an abusive relationship. My family doctor solution was to put me on anti-depressants against my will which made me more depressed and I ended up taking a full bottle of the anti-depressants. Fortunately I had the wherewithall to realize the consequences of taking them and was transported to the hospital immediately. My stomach was pumped immediately but I still went into a short coma. Upon wakening I was asked if I was getting psychiatric care and I said yes and that was that. The psychiatrist I was seeing, in my opinion was of no help at all. In fact, each time I left his office it took all of my courage NOT to stand in the middle of a busy road while crossing it. I always left in a worse state than I when I entered each appointment.

    In the end, he decided I didn’t like men. He recommended a female psychiatrist who I saw a short after. I spent about 75 minutes with her and she determined there was nothing wrong with me and didn’t know why I was there.

    I knew I needed help. I spoke to my minister who recommended an NLP practitioner. What a gift from the powers that be she was! What I was able to accomplish in only a year was life changing – for me – and for my family. I am a much stronger person for it. My family is stronger for it. Without her help I doubt I would be here today. Without NLP, I doubt I would be here today.

    Effective and excellent help is available because of NLP and other healing modalities – and does not mean a multi-year or lifelong commitment to traditional medical care one typically has with psychiatrists and psychotherapist, not to mention taking high risk medications that psychiatrists prescribe.

    I have a family relative who used the psychiatric route and was on medication – and died by suicide. I truly believe if he had access to alternative health care professionals he would with us today.

    1. So many people are saved by regression-to-root cause hypnotherapy, reiki, and combinations of NLP, hypnotherapy and other energy forms. This is why they want to monopolize all treatments that work and eliminate them…because they do work. If they didn’t, people would not pay out of pocket and they would be out of business…not like the psychologists and psychotherapists who are relying on government support to continue what clear has not worked for 70 years.

       Please sign these petitions and pass on and consider donating to help fund a legal pushback at this site. The petitions are at:

       Change.org petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qxwczo2 (demanding the Minister repeal this legislation)
       Care2 petition re Psychotherapy Takeover: http://tinyurl.com/qbjvcgn (demanding the Minister protect alternative practitioners from lobby groups like this)

31. This is a very disturbing turn of events that may limit the freedom to choose any altenative therapy for healing.

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